Glock vs Springfield Armory XD‏?

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Hey ferfal,

I’m sure you have probably got this email before, but just in case you haven’t:

I have seen posts questioning the SA XD, and I can say with certainty they’re good stuff.

A friend of mine has a Glock 9mm (G 17 I believe, but I cant say I remember well), and I have an SA XD 9 subcompact.

Fired side by side the action is very similar.

The action on the SA is (get this) smoother, but recoils wasn’t noticeably different. The Glock felt a little more mechanical. You can feel the slide run back, and impact the stop during ejection of the round.

I’ve played with them a bit and the only thing I can think of is the polymer frame on the XD absorbs vibration so you feel less vibration in your hand when firing.

This will most likely mean that the steel frame of the Glock might hold up to abuse more, but I have seen good things during my reliability research. The polymer frame will also resist corrosion more when exposed to oils and acids of concealment.

When looking for a common failure on the XD forums the most common issue I can find is “too many dry fires causes a pin to snap”; this pin however prevents the firing pin from smacking the breach wall and a failed pin will prevent a fractured breach wall.

I cleaned it once, and then ran 100 FMJs through it, then 100 HPs through it without a clean or oil, and it didn’t jam. It doesn’t have a manual safety, but it has a grip safety and a trigger safety. The grip safety prevents the slide from cycling, and the trigger safety puts a physical block in the path of the firing pin so allegedly, if the pin of a cocked gun dislodges and engages it will not make it all the way to the round without hitting the block first.

I haven’t been able to confirm this one: I loaded my XD up with snap caps (dummy rounds that don’t fire) cocked it, and threw it around a room for 5 minutes and I wasn’t able to get the firing pin to dislodge and drop-fire.

I was able to stovepipe it. Here’s how; chamber round, remove clip, fire.

There is a button that the round follower in the clip engages to lock the slide back on the final round that wasn’t present.

In a normal situation, the following round will aid in ejection of the previous round (pushing it out) on the last round of each clip, there is no following round so when the slide locks back it allows a few extra milliseconds for the last round to eject.

The subcompact 9 doesn’t have much recoil for a short barrel and it conceals well for its size.

The handle is wide like a Glock’s handle so it fits comfortably in the hand of a decent size guy(I am 6’6” with a size 13-USA shoe). I tried the Rueger lc9 which is very similar to the bodyguard and it actually hurts to fire because the small square handle wiggles in my hand under recoil and causes pressure points. The recoils of the smaller 38cal LC9 is higher than the recoil of my XD 9mm subcompact also. There is an accessory rail on the XD 9 standard, and subcompact. Fitting a light to the rail (very close to the exit of the barrel) will certainly cover the lens in burnt cordite after 100 rounds, but if your firing 100 rounds in a situation  of duress you have bigger problems than a dirty light.

In a pancake holster on the small of the back there is a bit of discomfort sitting down leaning back on something, so I can’t say it will be a perfect conceal carry weapon. It is comfortable to stand with, and doesn’t show under a shirt in the small of the back though. So if you have a standup job, go for it.

Hope this helps answer the XD question.

Jim

 

Hi Jim, thanks for your email. Indeed, I get asked about the XD a lot and here is my opinion.

Before saying anything, I have to say that I just love guns. Heck, I love anything that shoots, cuts, explodes or has any kind of violent chemical reaction. Just the way it is. But when it comes down to giving advice I can only call it as I see it and I see the Glock being the best, most successful all around combat handgun. I’m not saying that the XD is a bad gun, its very good, but a Glock it is not. Not only is the XD a copy (some will say improved version of..) of what was already done correctly the first time (in the Glock), with a few changes here and there so as to at least do something different, the changes made aren’t the ones I would have done myself.

Take the XD grip safety for example. Why? Dear God, why?

Even JMB didn’t like the grip safety in the 1911. He included it because it was demanded by the military. He got rid of it in the Hi-Power. The grip safety also means that the gun will not fire if not gripped properly and that is NOT a good thing. Yes, in ideal conditions you always grip the gun as you´re supposed to, but there’s nothing ideal about a gunfight. Chances of you getting shot in your arms during a gunfight and getting a finger blown off? Chances of that are actually pretty high (within the context of being in a gunfight). It generally tends to work this way: When you shoot at someone and he has a gun, he probably will shoot back. You naturally will shoot center of mass, and both of you will have your hands and arms covering your center of mass because that’s just what happens with nearly all shooting stances, even point aiming, even instinctive shooting. Stand in front of someone aiming at you and you see it clearly. This is why learning to shoot and reload with your other hand is important and is trained often.  Maybe because of the stress you just got a less than perfect grip, it can happen too. The gun should still fire in spite of a poor grip being used.

Why a safety in the first place? Manual safeties where used mostly because of the mechanical unreliability of the first autos, then their use continued because of police or military spec requirements.  Still, if you think about it you can see how unnecessary they are with safer modern guns. Have you ever seen a manual safety in a revolver? You don’t need one either in a modern striker fire auto.

Finally, no other handgun is as prolific in the defensive and tactical community. If there’s parts and accessories available for a gun, anywhere in the world, that sure is Glock.

FerFAL


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Glock vs Springfield Armory XD‏? — 10 Comments

    • Special Forces do not use the service issue 9mm unless they request it. It is not the make, but the round. For pure stopping power .45 caliber is their choice. Most gun “read pistol” fights will happen within 0 – 25 feet. At that range a 9mm will go right through. In fact if there are two bad guys it can go through both of them at that range. I have trained and used a 45 from 50 to 100 yds, “not by choice, would of rather had a 7.62mm or even a 5.56mm. A .45 caliber can not be handled by everyone.

      • Hi, 9mm FMJ will go right through as you say, but good JHP 9mm ammo will get the job done most of the time. For a slighlty better performance, something, you’ve got 40 S&W, 45 ACP and 357 SIG. The last one being the most powerful, most accurate and my choice. That being said everyone shoudl have a 9mm given that it works well enough with good ammo. If you only have one, make it a 9mm. That way you can afford to practice a lot too.

      • I own both xd glocks fans and M&P and will say xd is nothing but a high priced Taurus the fns is my best shooter by far

  1. I have laid my hands on a Tanfoglio. Still have to see if it stands up to testing and time. But so far so good. I took it over the Glock, not because I don’t like Glock, but becaue it has a .22lr conversion available. Also the militar that people in the store I bough it from (that also sell Glock) said Glock si nice but is more a matter of fashing this days. Plus external hammer is nice for me.

  2. Curious about the original question, the asker (Jim) says the glock he shot has a steel frame. Glocks have always had polymer frames. Wonder what he was shooting?

  3. Glock and XD pistol comparision can be made for Their,

    – Technical,
    – Practical…

    Aproaches.

    From the technical point of view, XD pistols can not even get
    closer to Glocks. Because,

    – Glock trigger safety locks the sear and enables owner to carry
    the pistol at real “Cocked And Locked” situation. With aid of
    Drop Safety feature which is a simple plastic ramp on ejector
    housing, the gun is as safe as a “locked and Cocked” 1911 Colt.
    The safety condition continues in the hand until the trigger is
    fully depressed.

    – XD trigger safety locks only the trigger, and the gun can be
    accepted as “Safe” until it is held by hand. Depressed Grip Safety
    takes the pistol out of safety and any outside impact can cause an
    unintended striker fall leaving the owner with an uncocked pistol
    on an emergency situation.

    – Glock Dismount Latch returns to “Locked” situation as soon as
    mounting process finished. There is no need owner care to get
    the pistol into “Ready to Fire” condition.

    – XD Dismount Lacth does not return to “Locked” situation and
    waits the owner’s care to get into “Ready to Fire” condition.
    It also needs carefull inspection since the standing upward
    dismount latch may not be noticed into a stressed mode. If it were
    on downwardly penduling into the trigger guard form, it would have
    more chance to be felt and noticed by triger finger and remembered
    to push to “Locked” condition.

    – Metal Triger of XD Pistols supplies no ruggedness but only an
    increase on the mass causing unintential trigger motion through
    inertia.

    – XD Barrel Axis is much higher than Glock.

    From Praçtical point of view, according the owner’s taste and
    physics positive and negative points differ for every person.

    I am not a Glock lover, but the truth is evident.

  4. I have a fascination with blocks because of their cheap and unrefined reliability. With that said, I much prefer to reholster my xd because it cannot go bang no matter what might be pressing the trigger. That grip safety allows me the peace of mind that a flock doesn’t. Reholstering a glock aiwb is a 5 second, 2 handed, very dangerous task. The xd on the other hand, just put your thumb over the back of the slide and worry not.

  5. The only difference between the Glock, and Springfield, is the Glock is a defensive, super high quality pistol, and the Springfield is a high quality offensive, pistol designed for minimally trained, high liability, law enforcement. Reason- good guys are not allowed to start gunfights, right? So if you are a good guy, and you need your pistol, the fights already started, and you are not the first in. So you need to catch up quickly. Bells, levers, thought necessary safeties, etc. will make you lose the gun fight. But if you are a standard 8-10 minutes of hands on, firearms training a year law enforcement type, then, because your management is a bunch of cheapo’s, who don’t train you near enough to minimum industry standard, there is a good chance you will be running around at some point, with your gun out, finger probably on the trigger, etc. In that case, the more safeties the better!

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