“Survivalists” in Oregon forced to Bug Out



Extract: Smoke from a fire is seen near Moccasin Hill, Ore. Officials say a fast-growing wildfire in southern Oregon has destroyed homes and forced dozens of evacuations.

Fernando, an interesting thing happened recently in south Oregon, a conservative area with lots of “preppers”. Basically, a big wildfire hit a rural neighborhood well known in Klamath County for having lots of preppers and off-the-grid types. According to local media, people were forced to flee IMMEDIATELY ahead of flames twice as high as the
pine trees. Many lost everything, including preps. Miraculously, nobody died, but half of an area known variously as “Moccasin Hill” or “Klamath Falls Forest Estates #1″ was reduced to ash. Google “Moccasin Hill wildfire Klamath County Oregon” for more info, and be aware that local media often has limits on how many free articles you can read. Thought you’d like to know about it, especially considering the new release of your book about bugging out.


(also in Canada)

Homes in West Kelowna are threatening by a wildfire that has grown to 400 hectares in size.

 extract:Homes in West Kelowna are threatening by a wildfire that has grown to 400 hectares in size. (CBc)

Here is an example of a bug out for some, and certainly a readiness
test for 60,000 if the wildfires damage the electrical-transmission




Thanks for your email.

Here’s a link to the fires in Oregon



Indeed, that’s one of the points I try to explain in “Bugging Out and Relocating”: Sometimes you simply don’t get to choose. Sure, in my case it was a country falling apart after a large scale economic disaster, resulting in poverty and crime that changed the landscape of the country, bringing the standards of living below levels I considered acceptable. You could say that’s not the kind of thing that happens every day. But in the case of Oregon and Canada, wild fires do happen with certain frequency and common house fires even more so. What about foreclosures? What about not being able to pay rent? The simple truth is, no preparedness plan is complete without a strategy for when bugging in isn’t an option.

In the case of survivalists, preppers and their homes, just like anyone else, losing all your material belongings can be devastating. Bugging out of Argentina and having to leave most of our belongings behind forced us to reevaluate how much sentimental value we had placed on inanimate objects. I’ve reached the point where I can honestly leave everything behind, I don’t value “stuff” nearly as much as I used to. Sure, I have a few belongings that I like and wouldn’t want to part with, but I’ve learned to understand what’s really important. When it comes to preparedness it is true that certain supplies and gear are important assets. You can’t live without food, water and shelter. Then again, with the right skills (and I’m not talking about starting a fire with a bow drill here folks) supplies and gear can be replaced and bought again. Here’s where we revisit how important skills and mindset are compared to “stuff”. Also to be addressed, the importance of not putting all your eggs in one basket.

Even if you have a well set homestead, and as uncomfortable as it may be to even think about it, you must force yourself to do the mental exercise of going through what you would do it you lost it all, if it all went up in flames or you had to evacuate all of a sudden. If you think this way you soon start thinking about reallocating at least some of your supplies and assets, organizing in a different way, leaving a bag or a couple boxes with some family or friends somewhere else. This uncomfortable exercise is good, because it takes you out of your comfort zone, your idealized scenario where everything goes along as you desire, which is the opposite of what happens during real disasters.

Another point I try to focus on: You just can’t live in your Bug Out Location. If you think you do, then you don’t understand what bug out location means. By definition a BOL is a place other than where you currently reside, because its where you go when your current place of residence is no longer viable. Once you live there, as great and as wonderful as it may be, its no longer a BOL.

There are numerous possible situations that may force you out of your home. As discussed in previous posts, a fire can spread through an entire house in less than 60 seconds. With disasters such as those or earthquakes, mudslides or floods it may happen even faster. Because of this, you need to know exactly what you are doing depending on the time you have. What would you do if you leave with nothing but the clothes on your back and the loved ones you managed to pull out? what do you remove if you have just a couple minutes and what you take if you have an hour or more to load up a car before making a quick exit?

The following is a short extract from my book “Bugging Out and Relocating”, page 24


Bug Out Timing 

It is important to plan ahead of time what to do when disaster strikes. Family members should know how to evacuate the house during an emergency, what to do if the main door cannot be opened or accessed and in what specific exterior location the family will be meeting once they make it outside. Clearly identify two emergency exits in each floor and make sure everyone in the house knows about them and how to access them. For such a purpose, you may need an Escape Ladder. Everyone should know exactly what to do when a family member raises the alarm and tells everyone to get out. This should be practiced at least once a year so that all family members know how to react during an evacuation. Depending on the nature of the disaster that is forcing you to bug out, you will have more or less time to gather emergency supplies.

The guideline below is an attempt to organize that which by its very own nature is chaotic and unpredictable. Still, it will give you a better idea of what your priorities are depending on how much time you believe you have. Never overestimate how much time you have. Material goods can be replaced and the difference between leaving one minute too early and one minute too late may be the difference between life and death. Keeping gear and kits well organized will help you get more of them out when every second counts. Remember to also consider how much time you may need to evacuate the disaster are if the event is not limited to your home and immediate surroundings. You may need to cover several miles before reaching safety and you don’t know what kind of delays you may encounter.

<1 minute

Gather all family members and exit the building as fast as possible. You leave with your lives and the clothes on your back. House fires and fast raising flood waters are good examples of such a case.

5 minutes

Once all family members have been accounted for and they have safely evacuated the building, grab the Bug Out Bag and Documents Bag. Grab the contents of your safe such as emergency cash, precious metals, jewelry and other family heirlooms. Most of the items kept in the safe should already be in the Documents Bag (see page 37) for quick removal. Examples of such a case are house fires, approaching wild fires, floods, terrorist attacks and nearby industrial accidents.

1 hour

In this case there is enough time to grab your BOB and Documents Bag. You can also gather more gear and supplies such as food, firearms, water, camping gear and extra clothes. If prepared ahead of time and ready to roll, it is also possible to take your trailer or caravan and have a quick word or leave a note with a trusted neighbor. Time flies when dealing with an emergency and the hour will go by sooner than expected. How well you equipment has been stored and organized will determine how much of it you will be able to gather given the time that you have. Possible examples of such a situation are mandatory evacuation ahead of a storm, foreign invasion, violent uprising.



Survival and Quality of Life


Bugging Out and Relocation: Uruguay

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Punta del Este is very nice… and expensive.


Never having been to Uruguay … Where would be your top five choices

to relocate family ? Reasons may vary … but could you mention the

main reason for each of the five choices ?

Thank you for all your studies & shares !



Hello Ron,

Below is part of the Chapter on Uruguay from my new book “Bugging Out and Relocating”.

Uruguay is nice but it has two important disadvantages to keep in mind: 1)It is still South America. There’s still considerable crime, the infrastructure is still poor overall and even the most basic task that could get resolved over the phone in five minutes in USA or other developed nation may take waiting in line in some crowded office all day. 2)Uruguay is not as cheap as you would expect. Sure, some people there may live on 1000 USD a month or less, but then again those that live with that kind of money do so in poor homes, have no car and none of the luxuries you take for granted in USA. For middle or upper middle class quality of life, Uruguay will be more expensive than USA and most other developed nations.

Especially with a country like Uruguay, you want to be close to the capital . My advice would be to find a place within your budget close enough to Montevideo. In more developed countries cities can generally stand on their own. Not so in South America. In general, its in the capital where you get everything done, from running errands to finding somewhat reasonable prices.

Excerpt from the chapter on Uruguay from “Bugging Out and Relocation”:

Where to Live

Punta del Este is where the rich and famous gather in Uruguay. It’s as exclusive as it is expensive. Montevideo is the capital city and would be a good choice for younger people looking to work and study in Uruguay. Pocitos and Punta Carretas are favored by expats. Carrasco and Punta Gorda are good options too. These are some of the best neighborhoods in Montevideo.

A bit further away from Montevideo but still close enough for when you need anything and also popular among expats, Atlántida and La Floresta are good, affordable alternatives. If you are looking for a nice summer resort town, consider Piriápolis.

Rocha, in the department of Maldonado, is a good choice for those looking for a smaller town and a quiet lifestyle close to the beach. It is a bit further away from Montevideo going north along the Atlantic coast, yet close enough for when you need to visit the capital. Colonia del Sacramento is another great little town. It is located to the west of Montevideo and it is closer to Buenos Aires, Argentina. Ferry services to Buenos Aires city are available.

Bug Out Camper/RV?



I live in the mid-hudson valley, NY-USA, 100 miles from NYC. In the event of a hyperinflationary-SHTF event, I plan to stay here. There is one circumstance that would compel me to move: a meltdown of the Indian Point nuclear power plant that is 36 miles away. This is not far fetched, since it is the third most likely atomic facility to undergo a catastrophe in the US (a fault is 3 miles away). If the 9/11 terrorists had crashed their planes into it, it would have been all over for about 20 million people.

I have friends who live 150 miles north in New Hampshire, but they are not reliable. If I and my wife were on our own, would we be better off in my 4WD pickup truck, or in the truck towing a small RV? I already own the pickup and would have to buy the RV. I have no other use for the RV, and storage would not be a problem. In the event of a meltdown I would hook up the RV and go north, living in the RV until I found suitable quarters.

Your thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated since I have nothing but the greatest respect for your opinion.



Hello Marvin,

Thanks for your email. Sorry for the delay in replying.

As you correctly assume, the best thing to do during an economic crisis is to stay put. It seems that a lot of people believe that if the dollar goes down, we should all hit the nearest national park and go Man vs Wild. That really solves nothing. An economic collapse can change the landscape of the country in a way you may later choose to leave like I did but such a thing does not happen overnight and abandoning the safety of your home and neighborhood as a kneejerk reaction doesn’t change the financial problem the country is going through. 

You mention a nearby nuclear power plant and that sure sounds like one of the potential threats to keep in mind, along with terrorist attacks, house fires and natural disasters. Everyone needs a bug out plan and in your case it should include a strategy so as to deal with a nuclear power plant failure/attack. Now, the doomer point of view is that if something goes wrong there wouldnt be enough time to do anything about it before being radiated. That simply isn’t true. Even after a nuclear attack, depending on distance you may have enough time to move away from danger towards safety. There’s a good chance you would have at least a few minutes and having the right strategy may save your life. You need a contingency plan for family members to rally at a specific point if scattered when the event takes place, prearranged supplies ready to go, a route (avoiding the radioactive plume, going downwind) and a bug out location to go to.

In general I recommend having an actual place to go to where family or friends can provide shelter until you get back on your feet. This is something that has to be discussed, don’t just assume it, even with people you consider good friends. Family is in general more likely to help one another but there are exceptions. Having someone already occupying a building, with supplies, beats having to buy and maintain various bug out locations, which isn’t very realistic for most people.

The RV is actually a good idea and it helps in a few areas. First, there’s no need for it to be the most expensive trailer, although it should be serviceable and taken care of, which does cost money if you expect it to work properly when needed. A small RV you can arrange it so as to have most of your supplies ready to go. You just hook it up and hit the road. Being portable means you can head in any direction and keep moving if needed. An RV also means you may go to someone’s place and not “overstay” the welcome as much by staying in the RV and not invading the privacy of someone else’s home as much, which may become a problem in the long run.

Now RVs are not the end all solution for bugging out. They aren’t exactly bomb proof and the outdoors can be harsh on them faster than you’d think. They need maintenance which can be expensive even if you take care of most of the manual labor. During some emergencies you may not have the time to take it with you or you may lose it during the evacuation (floods, etc)

In conclusion having an RV is a pretty good idea. Don’t overestimate the towing capacity of your vehicle and plan for the extra fuel needed when bugging out. Make sure you have enough. With a bit of patience you should be able to come across a used one for a reasonable price.
Good luck!


Relocating: What About Spain?

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Bugging Out of USA: Grass is Greener on the other Side…


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