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Relocating and gun ownership in Uruguay.
June 4, 2012 - 10:38 am
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"Hi Fernando,
Glad to hear you're still enjoying your new home country. My mother and I are going through the residency application for Uruguay. I re-read today your sole blog on this country. Would appreciate any leads, tips, anything. As I mentioned, we lived in Argentina and still know a few people there but we don't know anyone in Uruguay. I still can handle Spanish and could make new friends. My mother is in her late 70s. She takes high blood pressure medicine but otherwise generally in good health. Do you think it may be difficult to obtain health insurance for her? Also would you know what laws governs the import/export and ownership of precious metals in-country? I couldn't find anything readily on the internet. Also did you just take what you could with you, two pieces of luggage, or did you have things shipped to you?

Hi Dan, since you already lived in Argentina you already have a good idea of what its like to be in a Latin country. Uruguay being just across the river from Buenos Aires, Uruguay is strongly linked to porteños and Argentina in general so it wont be that much of a change. On the other hand and one of the things I like the most about it, there’s much less corruption in Uruguay and while crime is increasing its not nearly as bad. There’s an important American expat community in Uruguay as you’ll quickly see googling about it. Uruguay is still a Latin American country, certainly not a first world country but as close as it gets for Latin American terms. I’ve mentioned it several times, it would be one of my first choices if I had to stay in South America.

Uruguay has pretty acceptable free medical care, so once you get your residency you can have medical care for both of you. I’d still ask about it in the embassy for more details. I know you can have private medical care but I’ve read that even then some people prefer the free one because its not tainted by financial interest when it comes to medical care and treatments. A good private provider would be very good no doubt, but its just nice to know that you always have the free medical care just in case. Private health insurance for your mother may be hard to get and it will certainly be expensive, but give that if the residency gets through, you’ll have the free one. Again, its better to ask in the embassy and expat blogs so as to know which clinics are best and other details of relevance.
About gold, yes, you can own precious metals in Uruguay, buy and sell them, but you’ll be taxed if you enter precious metals to the country.

Yes, when I left we took two suitcases each, that was it. We left stuff back in Argentina and sometimes family and friends traveling bring us some of it. When you do something like that you see how little you need to get by and that what really matters in life, well, its certainly not stuff. It is nice though, having your things, your belongings, there´s nothing wrong with that and I sure would like to have a nice firearms collection again some day (heck, gear is piling around me already!), but I know I don’t need it to live happily.

"Hello Ferfal,
Love your blog. My wife and i have plans to relocate to Uruguay in the near future. My only concern is being able to take my firearms with me. That will make or brake the deal. I do not intend on leaving my Tools behind. I own a 12 gauge pump shotgun and an AR 15 semi automatic M4 style Carbine chambered for 5.56 and .223 ammo. I will be purchasing A pistol caliber rifle soon and possibly a pistol as well. I would like to know if those two rifles are allowed and if so what do i have to do to enter the country legally with my firearms?
You may respond in Spanish or English if you like.

Yes, you can bring your firearms to Uruguay. What you need to begin with is a “tenencia”(gun ownership), for this you’ll have to ask around gunstores and clubs in Uruguay because you require a psychiatric test, firearms handling course among other standard paperwork. Clubs and gunstores usually have people that can do these things for you. The M4 though, that may be very hard or even impossible to import. There’s a chance there’s some collectors license or loophole of some sort, but if there is one I don’t know of it, and most likely it will be expensive. You can have your handguns though, shotguns, lever action carbines and bolt guns, even a carry license is possible eventually with additional instruction and paperwork, but you should start with the “tenencia” ownership. Basically you can be armed ok in Uruguay, maybe not AR and AKs, but still good enough to have your basic defensive tools.
This link of American expats may be of help regarding guns. Notice that you cant escape anti gun American liberals even if moving to Uruguay!

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  39. While I agree that Glocks are reliable, modular, and cheap. Saying that the HK .45CT is prone to breakage, or not durable, is silly. I've owned multiple Glocks and multiple HKs. HKs are notoriously more durable than any pistol I'm aware of. Reliability-wise, for the short haul, the two are fairly even; though I'd still give the nod to HK. The HK .45 mags are expensive. But why not compare the 9mm to 9mm? For a few dollars more,you get steel mags. I would put the HK USP or the new models against any handgun out there. There is a reason they're more expensive.

    • The USP series is one of the most durable handguns out there.
      The modern versions even more so.

      The USP was designed as a .40 to begin with unlike the Glocks, then converted to 9mm and .45, its built to handle pressures and abuse that few other pistols can tolerate. At least one .40 USP was converted to 10mm, something that no Glock can handle.

      That being said, H&K doesn't have the same support as Glock, spare parts are few and far between, hopefully that will change with the VP9 pistols. Not that they are needed often, but when its a matter of getting your primary defensive gun back online that is a consideration.

      One has to consider the totality of the circumstances, and while the P30 and HK45 have blown the Glocks away in some of the independent testing, they stil cost twice as much and have less aftermarket gear available.

      As much as I like the USP compacts, the 9mm is about as friendly a gun as one can want, the G19 does tuck away just a little easier and has unparalleled support.

      The H&Ks are an excellent choice, just like the Steyr M9A1 and Glocks.

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    Actually, during the french revolution they would tie up a priest and a nun together with ropes so they could not swim and throw them into the see or a river.
    I live in France and I am a spiritual person but it is very hard here to talk about God or beliefs. Did you know the french also forbid the wearing of the scarf for mulsim women. Anyway, that might explain charlie hebdo's drawings because in the eyes of the french society, these people are fighting against religious bigotry and narrow mindedness of the clergy and the army and they (the cartoonists) probably did it because it made them feel good about themselves. But their newspaper didn't sell very well and they were always on the verge of bankruptcy. Also they were fighting among themselves and several of them split away to go to other media

    • Thanks, that was interesting. Yes, I knew they didnt sell well, maybe that's the reason why they always went with insults so as to make the headlines.

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    - All quiet in the politics front. People are composed waiting for the next move of the goverment. the world did not end with thw NO vote...
    - People are resorting more and more to cash and wire transfer. Thoough troublesome it will be good in the long run. Bad credit is gone. If you can pay for it now you are royal. Else,...
    - I am trying to move money between bank accounts and withdraw more cash, but it seems all methods have been blocked now.
    Be flexible, have many choices and act FAST.

  47. shtf has not occured until the $100 bill is toilet tissue. until then you can just buy your way out of a given bad area. Anyone with gold coins could have bought their way out of Argentina.

  48. Hi! Can anyone tell me what is the true average price for a modest house in Uruguay? The realestate web sites in Uruguay seem to be puming up the prices. The prices that I have seen are as high or higher then in Flordia.
    I wouold appreciate any comments.


    • Hello Warren. That is in fact correct. A similar house will be cheaper (even much cheaper!) in Florida, so will cost of living. The average person in Uruguay may get by with 1.000 USD a month, but then again their standards or living are probably not what the average American will be ok with (no car, no restaurants, on fast food,just paying the bills). In Uruguay you have homes anywhere from 50.000 USD to 12.000.000 USD for a house in Las Garzas depending on how much you want to spend. Uruguay is not cheap, but if you are poor its not the worst place to be in in South America. For an American? I'd say stay home.

      • thanks for your reply,
        I still have a question, When the average income in uruguay is low I can understand how people can cut back on expenses like food etc. But you still have to have a house to live in. A $50,000 house for a low income person seems not possible. It would take a generation to pay for it. Not to mention banks would not give loans
        to such low income people.
        If this is the case, there most be a growing population of very poor street people. This is not a good future for uruguay.
        Is this correct?


        • That's very much correct. It takes a lot more work to buy a home and get loans. Its more common for the average Uruguayan to live in the same house he grew up, several generations. they also buy cheaper homes, the kind most Americans wouldnt consider living in.

  49. FerFal: I found your site linked via and the comments section.

    I listen to a radio show called Ground Zero out of Portland, Oregon on KXL (you can listen via app on any phone). The host is Clyde Lewis and he says he spent time in Argentina during the early collapse. Anyhow his point of view is interesting but I wish he was more specific.

    You mentioned food. What kind of food is best after a financial collapse? I don't understand when you say to buy food.

    You mentioned driving to work. I live on the west coast. I have noticed that there is less traffic. There are fewer people driving and during the middle of the day or late at night the roads are empty.

    People in the US have gone to being independent contractors where you have to create your own job.

    I agree that health matters are key. The kind of food you buy is critical. As well as supplements versus medicine. I noticed you sell fish antiobiotics.

    As a veteran my healthcare in the US is substandard. There is limited emergency medical treatment for veterans. The only people getting great medical care at the US Veterans Administration are the federal employees that get Blue Cross / Blue Shield and that are protected from being fired by federal employees unions.

    I agree the middle class is being killed in the US.

    I just saw on FOX news that Hilliary Clinton had her e-mail server running in a bathroom closet and minimized the claims about her posting classified e-mails as internecine fights between government agencies.

    I disagree the problem with the US now and the US from the 1950s is the amount of welfare and the amount of taxation. People in the US are being taxed to death. The taxes the fines the fees for everyting from cable service to a cell phone to the local water and sewer fees. I pay more for my water and sewer fees than for my electric and gas in the off-months! That is insane! I pay fees on my garbage, on my city water, on my cell phone, on my internet to give free cable and cell phones to other people. I agree I am being robbed, daily, nickle and dimed to death! I am sick of it!

  50. Bienvenido a Espana Fernando,
    Te leo desde hace anos, y es una de mis visitas diarias
    Espero que aqui seais felices y encontreis lo que buscais.
    En que parte os habeis instalado???
    Si estais por Granada, me encantaria quedar algun dia y conocernos.
    Cuando te mudaste a Irlanda, hablabas bastante mal de Espana y su situacion, es cierto que las condiciones eran duras en aquel momento, y que todo esta cambiando, pero aun asi me sorprende vuestro movimiento.
    De nuevo, mucha suerte en esta nueva aventura. Espana es acojedora, disfritareis.
    Un cordial saludo,


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