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4:58 pm
August 25, 2010
OfflineHi Ferfal,
Thanks for your great blog! I’ve read it for some months now and find it very useful, also for the circumstances here in Germany.
My concern is: Here in Germany we are having very restrictive weapon laws. Nearly everything is forbidden, except long fingernails
What I am wearing though is pepper spray (allowed only against animals!). But I’d also like a defensive knive.
I think a folder with one-hand opening would be ideal. But again the laws… They only may be worn when intended for a socially accepted purpose. My interpretation: the more similar to a swiss army knive the more likely I don’t get in conflict with the police. I already looked into the Victorinox and Wenger product range but found nothing satisfying
So my question: what would be your edc defensive knive recommendation similar to an SAK and fitting into a pocket?
Thanks and take care.
Michael
Hi Michael!
First of all I want to note the huge different between difficult and impossible. There’s almost no country where you cannot own some kind of firearm. Even if gun laws are getting worse all the time there’s still options. Even if its “just” a double barrel shotgun, its still a firearm (and a pretty effective one, I might add).
If you have to join a club and go duck hunting for a year before you can buy a gun, just do it. Who knows, you might even enjoy it. I’ve done the impossible to get my guns back in Argentina, even when most people believed I was just wasting time and money. You just keep trying until you get there.
Second point before addressing your question. You are the real weapon. The rest are just tools used. For a person that understands this there’s never a moment when you’re truly unarmed if you commit to it. Even on a plane you’re not defenseless if you have the right pen or the right flashlight.
Surefire 6P LED Defender Single Output LED Flashlight
Schrade SCPENBK Tactical, Pen Black
Under the conditions you describe, I’d go for this SAK. Its not even a knife, it’s a “Rescue Tool”.
Victorinox Swiss Army Rescue Tool
You still have a very practical blade and a few tools that may come in handy. Even the glass breaker could break other things besides glass if your life is at stake.
As a general purpose tool that isn’t military style or tactical looking, I highly recommend this tool.
FerFAL
8:11 am
January 17, 2012
OfflineFerFal, your answer is sensible – and a good example that sensible and laws do not go well together. The SAK is a one-hand opener and iirc it does have a lock. So that is restricted.
For Michael, the solution is carrying a fixed knife (with only one cutting edge, no dagger) with a blade less than 12cm. That is absolutely legal in Germany. It should be inconspicuous, not advertised as fighting knife (because then it might be considered one). Benchmade Griptilian Fixed, Fällkniven F1, Cold Steel Master Hunter are all good tools in my book.
Every other option (one-hand opener without a lock, two-hand opener with a lock) is not viable for Michael's purposes, I'd say.
Michael, your description "Nearly everything is forbidden, except long fingernails" is rather off. First step: Know the laws. Don't rely on hearsay, of which there is a lot. Germany is surprisingly lenient when it comes to owning firearms after you jump through the hoops of getting a permit by going the hunting or the sports route. Stupid, compared to most states in the USA, which we tend to compare it to (though I'd rather live in Germany than California), but there is worse.
The knife part is frustrating for collectors, but not too bad for users (carry a short fixed, done).
Have a look at http://www.messerforum.net/ini…..messer.php which explains the details nicely. Or join the forum of that site, it is the biggest knife-related German forum. Just don't bring up self-defense.
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