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Parking Outside/Personal Security
February 8, 2012 - 6:41 pm
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Dear Ferfal:

I love your blog and book and have read every word of both. They are the ultimate advice for preparedness! My question is about parking outside and maintaining security when going to and from my car.
Like Argentina, the US is in mid-latitude and during the winter here, the sun comes up late and goes down early. When I go to work, it's dark, and when I come home from work, it's also dark. I have to park my car outside both at my home and at my work. I'm wondering what is your advice about personal security going to and from my car? I do carry a concealed glock pistol (I am a law enforcement officer) and I have an older car with some dents that I don't think would be too desireable for anyone to steal or carjack. I'm also usually carrying a heavy EDC bag. Mine is an M90 Swiss military backpack that is filled with extra food, water, hat/gloves, rain/wind gear, lots of ammo, medications, etc.
Do you have to park your car outside or do you have a garage? What is your advice for those who park in garages as they enter their garage and close the automatic door behind them? What types of incidents have you heard about when people are robbed or assaulted as they are getting into or out of their cars?
Thanks for all your advice, Ferfal! As one who has experienced societal collapse, you are the number one source for realistic, down-to-earth preparedness info! I also enjoy your perspective on Argentina's political environment since I see the US following the same path. It's getting crazy here with the new National Defense Authorization Act which takes away US citizens Bill of Rights. At least we still have our guns which will be our last chance to defend our other rights!

Hi Greg, glad you like my book and blog. Also guys, keep in mind I’ve been posting a good amount of videos on youtube (check for themodernsurvivalist channel) Between those three and the forum you have a good amount of resources to round up your preparedness plans and share ideas with like-minded people.
Seems you’re doing things right. You’re armed which is good. Maybe if you haven’t had one already, you might want to take a focused shooting class on fighting in and around vehicles. They can be pretty handy if you ever find yourself in that situation. A powerful Fenix or Surefire LED light (+200 lumens) is a nice addition to check in the shadows, you may want to add once to your pack. My friend GregMcGee offers some very nice ones (+600 lumens!) that I’ve reviewed in Youtibe. Those would be perfect and affordable too.
Your car isn’t the latest, flashiest model so that’s good. Many robberies and carjacks occur because the vehicle is of the luxurious kind or brand new, and bad guys quickly relate that to a wealthy potential victim.
I’ve been in both situations, both had to park outside and on other times I had both a gate and garage door, so I would open both with the remote and close them quickly. The extra layer of defense provided by the gate is very nice to have. You also want a motion detecting light that floods the general garage area as you (or anyone else) approaches. These are the exact same things burglars prefer to avoid.

In either case you have to be careful when approaching your home. If there’s any suspicious vehicles or people around don’t ever risk it and get used to playing it safe: keep driving around the block and approach again later. Don’t ever shut down that gut feeling that is telling you something is wrong. When I parked outside I mentally prepared myself for a possible attack. Even if careful it can still happen. A car can speed towards you, a bad guy with a gun can hide in the shadow, bushes, behind a tree, you never know. I would tell myself that someone would indeed pop up and I would be ready to start fighting, just like you’re ready to start shooting in action shooting sports, you know those seconds before you hear the beep of the timer. Then the attack wouldn’t come, and I’d relax once the door was shut, safely inside. It does sound paranoid, but it’s the only way in which you’ll be ready. Get hit while daydreaming, thinking of a girl you’re dating, or what the wife asked you to get for her and you just remembered you forgot. Have that in your mind during that precise window of opportunity criminals usually take advantage of and you will not be ready to retaliate an attack. It’s the moment when you’re most exposed, so be ready for it just in case.
When leaving I would first look out the window to see anything suspicious, then when leaving do it as safely but yet as quickly as possible so as to reduce that window of exposure, that moment of vulnerability as much as possible.
Coming back home I would lower the windows, in case I had to shoot. Glass wont be stopping bullets anyway, and I’d rather shoot with the windows down. Why not keep them down all the time? Because in places like red lights someone may try to snatch something from your vehicle or shove a gun inside. Also they tend to throw rocks at you on the highway and the glass may be enough of a barrier to save your neck. Some people with tinted car windows prefer to keep them up at all times so as to not let the bad guys outside know whats going on on the inside, what your actions are or even how many people are inside. Its your call and it depends on your personal situation. There’s no right or wrong answer. I know of at least one case where that saved a female police officer’s life. A carjacker knocked on her car window with his gun, and the tinted glass prevented the criminal from seeing her draw her gun and shoot him right in the face, killing him where he stood!

Should I park inside or outside? Again, I know people that do both, did both myself. Generally if the automatic door is too slow, speed is preferred so its better to risk leaving the car outside and hurrying inside. Then again in high crime areas they’ll pick your car clean little by little. That actually happened to me when I was without a garage. One day they would break in and steal the speakers. A couple days later they’d steal the lights. They didn’t take the car because I had one of those safety bars that go in the wheel but anything that they could take with a screwdriver was stolen little by little. You may not want to suffer that and prefer to park inside.
Another important point. Call your wife or some other family member or friend a couple minutes before you arrive. That way they can keep an eye on you from the inside and call the cops if they notice anything strange or warn you about strange activities outside and tell you to not come close for a while.
Hope that helps,
Take care.

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February 8, 2012 - 8:14 pm
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February 15, 2012 - 9:26 pm
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Interesting comments about lowering the windows in case you have to shoot. Never thought about that, but then again, nobody ever does.

Thanks FerFal

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  39. While I agree that Glocks are reliable, modular, and cheap. Saying that the HK .45CT is prone to breakage, or not durable, is silly. I've owned multiple Glocks and multiple HKs. HKs are notoriously more durable than any pistol I'm aware of. Reliability-wise, for the short haul, the two are fairly even; though I'd still give the nod to HK. The HK .45 mags are expensive. But why not compare the 9mm to 9mm? For a few dollars more,you get steel mags. I would put the HK USP or the new models against any handgun out there. There is a reason they're more expensive.

    • The USP series is one of the most durable handguns out there.
      The modern versions even more so.

      The USP was designed as a .40 to begin with unlike the Glocks, then converted to 9mm and .45, its built to handle pressures and abuse that few other pistols can tolerate. At least one .40 USP was converted to 10mm, something that no Glock can handle.

      That being said, H&K doesn't have the same support as Glock, spare parts are few and far between, hopefully that will change with the VP9 pistols. Not that they are needed often, but when its a matter of getting your primary defensive gun back online that is a consideration.

      One has to consider the totality of the circumstances, and while the P30 and HK45 have blown the Glocks away in some of the independent testing, they stil cost twice as much and have less aftermarket gear available.

      As much as I like the USP compacts, the 9mm is about as friendly a gun as one can want, the G19 does tuck away just a little easier and has unparalleled support.

      The H&Ks are an excellent choice, just like the Steyr M9A1 and Glocks.

  40. I've got a Gen 1 17 and a Gen 4 19. Except for the two mags that came with the 19, all my mags are the 17 shell that will fit both Glocks. The 19 has a little less recoil and is easier to conceal, but otherwise the main difference is where my trigger finger rests on the take-down lugs. The 19 has a slightly softer trigger, but the two feel enough the same that it really doesn't matter which one I grab.

  41. Ferfal, I listened carefully to your video on charlie hebdo. Actually charlie is not the name of a guy but that of the magazine in which several cartoonists worked. There is a tradition in France actually that goes back to the french revolution of hating religion and clergy. It is called "bouffer du curé" litterally "to eat priests" The people who indulge in that think of themselves as rational, undeluded and smarter-in a way superior to those they insult. It is also widely tolerated and quite common among the average guy. In the same way they will insult the military because they are considered conservative and authoritarian.
    Actually, during the french revolution they would tie up a priest and a nun together with ropes so they could not swim and throw them into the see or a river.
    I live in France and I am a spiritual person but it is very hard here to talk about God or beliefs. Did you know the french also forbid the wearing of the scarf for mulsim women. Anyway, that might explain charlie hebdo's drawings because in the eyes of the french society, these people are fighting against religious bigotry and narrow mindedness of the clergy and the army and they (the cartoonists) probably did it because it made them feel good about themselves. But their newspaper didn't sell very well and they were always on the verge of bankruptcy. Also they were fighting among themselves and several of them split away to go to other media

    • Thanks, that was interesting. Yes, I knew they didnt sell well, maybe that's the reason why they always went with insults so as to make the headlines.

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  44. Thanks James, yes its a good idea. Someone suggested a black plastic garden sprayer, that would probably work nice as well.

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  46. [b]Tuesday, July the 7th[/b]

    - All quiet in the politics front. People are composed waiting for the next move of the goverment. the world did not end with thw NO vote...
    - People are resorting more and more to cash and wire transfer. Thoough troublesome it will be good in the long run. Bad credit is gone. If you can pay for it now you are royal. Else,...
    - I am trying to move money between bank accounts and withdraw more cash, but it seems all methods have been blocked now.
    Be flexible, have many choices and act FAST.

  47. shtf has not occured until the $100 bill is toilet tissue. until then you can just buy your way out of a given bad area. Anyone with gold coins could have bought their way out of Argentina.

  48. Hi! Can anyone tell me what is the true average price for a modest house in Uruguay? The realestate web sites in Uruguay seem to be puming up the prices. The prices that I have seen are as high or higher then in Flordia.
    I wouold appreciate any comments.


    • Hello Warren. That is in fact correct. A similar house will be cheaper (even much cheaper!) in Florida, so will cost of living. The average person in Uruguay may get by with 1.000 USD a month, but then again their standards or living are probably not what the average American will be ok with (no car, no restaurants, on fast food,just paying the bills). In Uruguay you have homes anywhere from 50.000 USD to 12.000.000 USD for a house in Las Garzas depending on how much you want to spend. Uruguay is not cheap, but if you are poor its not the worst place to be in in South America. For an American? I'd say stay home.

      • thanks for your reply,
        I still have a question, When the average income in uruguay is low I can understand how people can cut back on expenses like food etc. But you still have to have a house to live in. A $50,000 house for a low income person seems not possible. It would take a generation to pay for it. Not to mention banks would not give loans
        to such low income people.
        If this is the case, there most be a growing population of very poor street people. This is not a good future for uruguay.
        Is this correct?


        • That's very much correct. It takes a lot more work to buy a home and get loans. Its more common for the average Uruguayan to live in the same house he grew up, several generations. they also buy cheaper homes, the kind most Americans wouldnt consider living in.

  49. FerFal: I found your site linked via and the comments section.

    I listen to a radio show called Ground Zero out of Portland, Oregon on KXL (you can listen via app on any phone). The host is Clyde Lewis and he says he spent time in Argentina during the early collapse. Anyhow his point of view is interesting but I wish he was more specific.

    You mentioned food. What kind of food is best after a financial collapse? I don't understand when you say to buy food.

    You mentioned driving to work. I live on the west coast. I have noticed that there is less traffic. There are fewer people driving and during the middle of the day or late at night the roads are empty.

    People in the US have gone to being independent contractors where you have to create your own job.

    I agree that health matters are key. The kind of food you buy is critical. As well as supplements versus medicine. I noticed you sell fish antiobiotics.

    As a veteran my healthcare in the US is substandard. There is limited emergency medical treatment for veterans. The only people getting great medical care at the US Veterans Administration are the federal employees that get Blue Cross / Blue Shield and that are protected from being fired by federal employees unions.

    I agree the middle class is being killed in the US.

    I just saw on FOX news that Hilliary Clinton had her e-mail server running in a bathroom closet and minimized the claims about her posting classified e-mails as internecine fights between government agencies.

    I disagree the problem with the US now and the US from the 1950s is the amount of welfare and the amount of taxation. People in the US are being taxed to death. The taxes the fines the fees for everyting from cable service to a cell phone to the local water and sewer fees. I pay more for my water and sewer fees than for my electric and gas in the off-months! That is insane! I pay fees on my garbage, on my city water, on my cell phone, on my internet to give free cable and cell phones to other people. I agree I am being robbed, daily, nickle and dimed to death! I am sick of it!

  50. Bienvenido a Espana Fernando,
    Te leo desde hace anos, y es una de mis visitas diarias
    Espero que aqui seais felices y encontreis lo que buscais.
    En que parte os habeis instalado???
    Si estais por Granada, me encantaria quedar algun dia y conocernos.
    Cuando te mudaste a Irlanda, hablabas bastante mal de Espana y su situacion, es cierto que las condiciones eran duras en aquel momento, y que todo esta cambiando, pero aun asi me sorprende vuestro movimiento.
    De nuevo, mucha suerte en esta nueva aventura. Espana es acojedora, disfritareis.
    Un cordial saludo,


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